I've been struggling with whether or not to post this, because I'm sure you're all sick of my racism talk, but... well dammit, the only thing I hate worse than a racist is a racist who doesn't know he's a racist. Or, in this case, she.
How many Mexicans does it take... to stare at you until you feel uncomfortable?
Gee. I don't know. Maybe a thousand? Is that too many?
Oh, perhaps I'm being too harsh. Perhaps she's not a racist. Do you buy
this explanation? Um...
I dunno. I guess I don't buy it. Does anybody else understand? Please, somebody convince me she's not a racist.
Well, shit. Either way, racist or not, she sure said some shitty things.
Update: there's
more explanation.
Let me say this: If you're a woman, and you have guys ogling you and leering at you and intentionally brushing past you, you have
every right to be angry. Go ahead. Be mad at the people leering at you. But don't blame the entire ethnic group in some grand stereotype. That right there is racism at it's most basic level. Period.
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People like that make me ashamed to be
American and white human! No matter what your experiences are with a group of people, saying hateful things like "Go back to where you came from" is Racist. No amount of "justification" justifies making IGNORANT and hateful comments. Of course, everyone is entitled to their opinion, but being an asshole is completely unnecessary.
Posted by
Trixie on 07/13 at 08:45 AM
Well I can only speak for myself on this. But I'd have to say while the post was certainly badly worded I can feel her aggro at being talked about and surreptiously felt up. That shit happens all the time to me and I know it eeks lotsa girls out. Of course I'd feel the same about all kinds of lower life forms ogling and groping me. I'm not sure why she felt the need to attribute this type of behavior to a specific race. I just feel like while I can't support her blaming a specific people for this type of behavior, I can understand the place where it was coming from. And I'm an asshole for defending anything that results in this kind of bile being put out into the world but I can't just leave her hanging either. And I feel a little dirty even trying to justify this. Of course in my book racism is assuming that anybody of one race will have certain characteristics simply because of their ethnicity instead of acknowledging that each person is an individual with their own strengths and weaknesses. So do I think the post was racist? Yes. Do I think the author was being intentionally malignant? No. And I'm sorry if none of that made any sense but I seem to be having issues putting my sentiments into words right now. Feel free to delete and I apologize for the length.
Posted by
aurora on 07/13 at 08:48 AM
Sorry, Mikey. No can do. I had a big long comment to post in response to her, being from Nuevo Mexico and all. I deleted it because what was the point? She would just read New Mexico and quit listening to me anyway. You pretty much covered it in your comment...Kudos.
Posted by
Lushy on 07/13 at 08:50 AM
No, she's a racist. She's living in a little bubble where other people are racist but she is not. And as far as the whole thing goes, I've been made to feel more uncomfortable around groups of white males (as a white female) then around any other groups. You know, maybe there were a bunch of sleazy Mexicans, but down the block there is probably a really well educated, polite, and friendly group of Mexicans who would have stood up for her.
For crying out loud. That is a pretty big conclusion to make about an entire country of people.
And oddly enough? My word is Buddha. So much for tolerance and peace. LOL.
Posted by
Ange. on 07/13 at 08:58 AM
omg. I just read that. I don't even know how to begin with that. Your comment on the "mexican" entry was fantastic, though. Except I'm sure it'll get deleted, as I noticed some other entries were deleted above it.
Posted by
Joelle on 07/13 at 09:00 AM
Hmmm, well I am going to say that I have been in this situation before. Actually every morning, because we really do have a group of mexican men that sit out front of our office waiting for someone to pick them up for work. I get the chants too. I guess I don't feel as strongly about it as she but I don't think I would point the blame towards Mexicans. I think it's just more of a man thing. All men do it... AND so do women. Of all races. It's human nature. No big deal.
I too, am mexican. I don't think I feel this strongly about other ethnicities that can't speak english. I mean, it wouldn't hurt to know it when your here, especially if you have a customer service job or something, I mean c'mon, but we (americans) accommodate to other ethnicities BECAUSE this IS America. Plain and simple. Every ethnicity is here. We welcome every ethnicity. What else should we expect? I don't know. I guess that's just me.
Happy hump day by the way!!
Posted by
steph on 07/13 at 09:00 AM
You're absoloutely right.
Posted by
aurora on 07/13 at 09:16 AM
It looks as though she's apologized to you directly and modified her entry. Maybe you've opened some eyes, babe.
Posted by
Joelle on 07/13 at 09:19 AM
Mikey has made me realize that my statements were made to all Mexicans and inappropriate. When they should have been directed to the Mexican Construction workers solely. Which honestly, was the intentions of my post. I understand that it did not come across that way. For this I do sincerely apologize. I do thank you ladies who have experienced the 7-11 scenerio and speaking out on my behalf. I have chaged the post to be more appropriate. I do not throw in the towel often, but Mikey did make a good point to me. Again, I'm sorry.
~April~
Posted by
Gimpy on 07/13 at 09:20 AM
And... I'm sorry for ogling you ladies at the 7-11 in the mornings. I... I didn't realize it hurt y'all so badly. I'll be good from now on.
Posted by
Maine on 07/13 at 09:59 AM
Does anybody else understand? Please, somebody convince me she's not a racist.
Um... I'm afraid I won't be able to do that. Aside from the blatant racists remarks, that whole scary way she went off on you and then got all nicey-nice kinda creeped me out.
Dude -- where do you find these blogs?
Posted by
CLD on 07/13 at 10:11 AM
CLD-I have read Mikey site several times and I really do think he's funny. I did touch a nerve with him, HOWEVER, I do feel that he gave me a fair shot in his post. Whether or not I've convinced anyone that I am not a racist doesn't concern me. I went off on him because it was not fair for him to assume that I do not experience uncomfortable situations for being what I am, which he did not know. Again, I WAS WRONG to blame an entire ethnic group. I'm sure most men do not have Mexican women acting they way these men in 7-11 did.
Posted by
Gimpy on 07/13 at 10:19 AM
I love your racism posts, Mikey. They always make me think about assumptions we're making and that what and how say things, even on an obscure personal weblog, can affect people.
Posted by
Noelle on 07/13 at 10:49 AM
Well... I guess I'm just full of hatred for not wanting to forgive somebody for making a pretty weak case for "English As The National Language."
She forgets that this country was founded by MY PEOPLE, not white people. It's interesting how the Native American language is not actually the native American language. Then again, my culture was based on acceptance and had no notion of race, so I guess when we welcomed white people to our lands, we were stupid for not seeing hundreds of years of death and oppression in our future.
Our mistake. We didn't speak English fluently.
Posted by
Bren on 07/14 at 10:40 AM
http://www.kleenex.com I need a tissue and a fucking life
Posted by on 07/14 at 01:58 PM
Damn right you do.
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